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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 13:06:18 GMT -5
To help with the process of waiving players, I am proposing a very minor rule change. When a player is placed on waivers, he can be (but does not have to be) immediately dropped from your roster.
Once the waiver process is finished, if claimed, the claiming team will have 24 hours to work out a trade or will adopt the full contract, and must pick up the player on the ESPN roster. Either a trade to be posted for approval, or the player will be picked up. Wins will be forfeited for failing to follow through in 24 hours (with a grace period allowed if deemed appropriate).
If the player is left unclaimed, the original owner will have 24 hours to decide to place the player on his AAA roster or to cut him (at 50% or with the once-a-year DFA rate of 25%). Again, wins will be forfeited for failing to follow through in 24 hours (with a grace period allowed if deemed appropriate). Intentions can also be posted ahead of time, such as when the player is posted on waivers, to make the processing more straightforward and easier to handle.
I am suggesting this rule change as I believe this is very similar to how the MLB operates, and it will make managing waivers easier and less stressful, especially as trades and DL stints are concerned.
This is the first proposed rule change. In order for this to pass, we will require 75% (12 total people) to vote to pass this rule change.
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Post by clutchyball (B.Y. Soup Cups) on Apr 15, 2016 13:07:55 GMT -5
In favor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 13:20:56 GMT -5
Yay
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 13:42:01 GMT -5
Nay
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 13:49:58 GMT -5
In favor
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Post by tummysticks17 (Scrubs) on Apr 15, 2016 14:08:57 GMT -5
yay
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Post by kickthepony (Isotopes) on Apr 15, 2016 14:11:20 GMT -5
yay in favor
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Post by Eric (Guidopolis) on Apr 15, 2016 14:59:14 GMT -5
yay
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Post by roadkill (Krustyville) on Apr 15, 2016 15:33:06 GMT -5
In favor
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 19:06:32 GMT -5
This is currently sitting at 8 in favor and 1 against. 4 more need to be in favor for this to pass. 4 more need to be against this change for this to fail. Tomorrow, I will start messaging the people that haven't already voted asking them to please do so. I would also ask that if you vote against, to please give a reason; we can always change the rule, and it's easier to do now before it becomes official.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 19:23:02 GMT -5
I'm voting against simply because I don't see how it makes any difference. If anything, it is slightly more confusing to have a player off-rostered but in limbo, especially if there would now be new penalties for not clarifying that limbo fast enough. The old rule is simpler and clearer. maybe reconsider in the offseason.
[note that in MLB you have 10 days to clarify a DFA. I'd be ok giving 10 days to move someone off your 40 man roster, but that's not what this rule proposes. I think it is just simpler to leave the guy on your ESPN roster until waivers resolves. ]
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 19:50:29 GMT -5
Thank you for making some good points. I have noted your vote and it currently stands at 8 for and 2 against.
The penalties aren't really "new" per se, they are the same penalties that would apply to doing any "bad" action (like being over your cap), and to date, they haven't been enforced, nor do I think they would be in a typical "oh I forgot about this" type situation, unless it becomes a recurring problems and isn't fixed relatively quickly after a reminder. We aren't out to penalize teams and are pretty understanding that sometimes 24 hours isn't enough, but we would love every one to have things taken care of in 24 hours.
We also don't have a "limbo" zone, like the MLB has the DFA. My hope is that this rule is a bit more like the MLB giving us a limbo time, while also realizing that 10 days is way overkill in a fantasy league.
Also with the new DL list rules (being able to drop a DL'ed player on the ESPN roster) requiring 24 hours to get a DL'ed player back on the ESPN roster after the team activates him, someone is going to have to burn an option or use an outright release to meet the deadline. If this does fail, we will have to revisit the DL rules.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 20:01:53 GMT -5
Also with the new DL list rules (being able to drop a DL'ed player on the ESPN roster) requiring 24 hours to get a DL'ed player back on the ESPN roster after the team activates him, someone is going to have to burn an option or use an outright release to meet the deadline. If this does fail, we will have to revisit the DL rules. 100% agree with this part. There should be 1 clear rule covering both types of transactions. And you are right about burning up options as a hidden penalty for having too many Dl guys at the same time. I'd suggest having no regulation at all if a team suffers more than 2 DL at a time; bring someone up if you *choose*, or just let the extra DL guys sit there on the active roster until a DL slot opens up. With waivers, too, I'd say be able to make your transaction as you please---just after the waiver period officially passes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 8:27:57 GMT -5
Yay.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 19:46:20 GMT -5
Yay
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