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Post by Eric (Guidopolis) on Mar 23, 2016 20:42:58 GMT -5
I'm making a sticky just so everyone sees this since it was lost in the shuffle.
We had some rules on here about salary but it looks like the thread got deleted, moved, something happened to it. Either way it's pretty much common sense.
1. The salary cap is 190 million.
2. During the offseason a team has before the season starts to make sure their team is under the salary cap. If that does not happen the stats that they will be playing in will start to be disqualified.
3. During the season if a team goes over the cap space they have 48 hours to make corresponding moves to get under the salary cap. If they do not they will begin to start forfeiting stats, which will in turn start to forfeit games.
4. Failure to correct a problem with a salary cap issue to a team will result in expulsion from the league. This will be done on a by case situation. One case is always different then the other. This will be determined by the commissioners.
It's there it's in writing. THIS IS NOTHING SURPRISING! Over the salary cap for an extended period of time during the season will not be tolerated.
In the offseason there will be times that teams are over the cap, doesn't matter as long as it's rectified by the start of the season.
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Post by Eric (Guidopolis) on Mar 24, 2016 7:34:32 GMT -5
Explaining the Contract page a little bit:
So that there is no more confusion about the contract page. Here's how it works. The page that you should care the most about is your page. Not the page on the front, thats more there for the commish's to make sure that everyone is under the cap, has a legal roster etc etc.
Your page is made up of 8 different fields at the top of the page.
1. Salary Cap - the Salary cap for the league for the year set at 190
2. Cash Additions- This is anything you have gotten in a trade cash considerations etc etc. If you scroll down to F81 you can see where it begins with the Team Financial Transactions. A perfect way to disect this is the Trine-Bronx trade. Trine is paying 19 mil on Chris Davis for 6 years, Bronx is getting 19 mil for Chris Davis. In that box Trine is getting a negative amount of cash additions, Bronx is getting a positive 19. If you look at the Cash Additions box at the top for Trine and Bronx you can see the addition and subtraction of these monies. Bronx has 19 + Trine has 19 -
3. Extended Salary Cap - This leads into the extended salary cap. This takes the cash additions and minuses or adds the amount to the salary cap. Bronx has a extended salary cap of 209 million, Trine has a salary cap of 171 million. This is there in case Chris Davis gets traded again, his salary is 23 million. That's a 4 million difference. If bombers moves Davis the money does not move with him. There can be another trade to offset the salary more. But the trade of money was straight up to Bronx Bombers, not to follow Chris Davis around. Bronx is still paying 23 million to Chris Davis, it's just that he's getting an addition 19 million from Trine.
4. Salaries - This ones kind of easy, it's the amount of money you are paying to your Active roster and AAA. It's all the monies added up and ready to go. Obviously ARB is not counted as that doesn't take effect until the project
5. Waivers - This will obviously be more in affect once people start waiving players but the total amount of the salary will be put into this box. The formula is there to take the 50 percent out already. You will see the total salary in the box at G103, but then in the waivers box it will show the 50 percent that you have to pay for the length of the contract. This counts against your cap space in the payroll
6. Minors - This is the total amount that is owed to your minors. Each player counts for .100 when they are in the minor league system its all added up here and counts against your total cap space as if it were payroll.
7. Payroll - This is 4, 5 and 6 added together to give the just of how much your payroll is. It's the total monies that you are paying out to different players.
8. Cap Space Remaining - This is the Extended Salary Cap - the Total Payroll. The amount of money that you have in your pocket minus the amount of money that you are throwing out.
If anyone has any questions let me know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 15:41:52 GMT -5
I'm assuming even if Davis gets traded again, I will still have to pay the 19 mill each year, correct? If so does the new team get the 19 mill or how does that transfer of cash work.
And not that it really matters because you were using it as an example but Chris Davis is 24 mill not 23
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Post by Eric (Guidopolis) on Mar 24, 2016 15:44:04 GMT -5
Yea it stays with the team so the cash won't transfer to anyone u less Bronx decides to send his own 19 with Davis
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 15:50:14 GMT -5
Gotcha
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 8:32:30 GMT -5
Yea it stays with the team so the cash won't transfer to anyone u less Bronx decides to send his own 19 with Davis why is that? When the deal was made the deal was "Trine Thunder will pay 19 mill each year of Davis's contract for the duration of his current contract" When he gets traded it is still the current contract, nowhere in the trade does it say that the money goes to the owner, it specifically says trine thunder will pay 19 mil of DAVIS'S contract. So if Davis gets traded that money should follow. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 9:21:12 GMT -5
And due to the way you are wording it the new owner could release Chris Davis and because you are not tying the money to Chris davis and are tying it to the owner, the new owner could release Chris Davis and end up coming out with money leftover
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 9:30:15 GMT -5
And due to the way you are wording it the new owner could release Chris Davis and because you are not tying the money to Chris davis and are tying it to the owner, the new owner could release Chris Davis and end up coming out with money leftover The money is transferred. Money is never actually tied to contracts in the MLB, so yes, this is a possibility. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 9:35:00 GMT -5
Even though in the trade he specifically states he is paying the contract and not the team???
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 10:02:44 GMT -5
And due to the way you are wording it the new owner could release Chris Davis and because you are not tying the money to Chris davis and are tying it to the owner, the new owner could release Chris Davis and end up coming out with money leftover The money is transferred. Money is never actually tied to contracts in the MLB, so yes, this is a possibility. And if the trade specifically stated the other team got the money then I would agree with this but the trade specifically was tied to the contract of Chris Davis and not the team so the ruling should be that the money follows his contract like it was worded in the trade that was agreed upon by both teams and passed by the trade committee worded as tied to the Chris Davis's contract. |
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Post by Eric (Guidopolis) on Mar 25, 2016 10:29:40 GMT -5
The exact wording of a trade doesn't matter. This isn't a league that is under the constitution of the us. It's a fantasy baseball league. Any money transferred belongs to the team if Davis is let go at half the salary so be it he made. If it was tied to the player trine wouldn't get out of the rest when he was released he traded 19 mil. In this league that's how money is transferred at this time if it needs to be changed we can change during the winter meetings
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 10:44:59 GMT -5
The exact wording of a trade doesn't matter. This isn't a league that is under the constitution of the us. It's a fantasy baseball league. Any money transferred belongs to the team if Davis is let go at half the salary so be it he made. If it was tied to the player trine wouldn't get out of the rest when he was released he traded 19 mil. In this league that's how money is transferred at this time if it needs to be changed we can change during the winter meetings The exact wording of a trade does matter. I'm not trying to be a pain but I know I am about this because this is a topic I fully disagree with. No where was it ever stated that any time money is paid towards a players contract that it goes to the team. What is the point of even stating that it goes towards the contract? Why not just say he was getting 19 a year for the next x years? If a trade is made with specific wording and we do not follow the specific wording then we are going to run into a lot of issues down the road. I know the team that traded Chris Davis should have no care either way since he will be paying out the 19 one way or the other. The team getting Chris Davis is not going to agree with what I'm writing because it means they don't keep the money if they ever trade Chris Davis. I just want the rulings to follow what the words say and not how we want to interpret them. |
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