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Post by Eric (Guidopolis) on Mar 13, 2016 20:43:39 GMT -5
First one... Bid at 3 yrs 3 mil
3 * 1.1 = 3.1 Any bid that brings the point total over 3.5 will be acceptable 3.5 mil over 3 years would beat it 3 over 4 would only bring you to 3.2 unacceptable
I can get in more depth later when I am not typing from my phone but that gives you a sense
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 21:38:31 GMT -5
15% of 3.1 is 0.465, so the point total for a legal bid would need to be at least 3.565
15% of 1.1 is 0.165, so the bid points for a legal bid would be 1.265
3.565 divided by 1.265 is 2.82 (I rounded up), so a bid of of either 3 or 4 years at 2.82 mill or more per year are the only legal bids right?
Not sure how this helps free agency. Seems to only complicate things unnecessarily lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 22:48:33 GMT -5
15% of 3.1 is 0.465, so the point total for a legal bid would need to be at least 3.565 15% of 1.1 is 0.165, so the bid points for a legal bid would be 1.265 3.565 divided by 1.265 is 2.82 (I rounded up), so a bid of of either 3 or 4 years at 2.82 mill or more per year are the only legal bids right? Not sure how this helps free agency. Seems to only complicate things unnecessarily lol. My suggestion, and it is merely a suggestion without any attempt at contentiousness, is to set a minimum incremental bid of 1m per year offered. If you offer 3 years @ 3m, the next valid incremental bid would be 3 years @ 4m. The next person would need to offer either 3 years @ 5m, or 4 years at 4m. Valid bids would need to increase the high bid: by either the length of contract by one year, or the value by 1m. That does away with the problem of comparing different contract lengths. A bid either goes up by a minimum of a year, a mil, or both. Otherwise you will see a lot of confusion and contention as people arrive at different bid point calculations. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 23:36:32 GMT -5
Good suggestion. Make it simple. I don't have a clue about the leagues present formula.
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Post by kickthepony (Isotopes) on Mar 14, 2016 4:22:21 GMT -5
Here's the problem with that, that we ran into in a previous league. If you only have to increase by 1, you will have bids for a player literally drag on for a week with people just going up by one over and over and over again. This is what we are trying to avoid
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 4:48:11 GMT -5
My suggestion would be to play around with the numbers and make fake bids to practice getting the BP. I was confused by it at first but after my fiancé explained it to me (she teaches math and science lol) it's actually not that complicated.
And to be honest without being rude, I really have no interest in going back and forth with 1 million increases. It would take forever to get a anyone signed.
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Post by Eric (Guidopolis) on Mar 14, 2016 8:15:59 GMT -5
Can someone please confirm my math, I created a small calculator on the contracts page.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 8:47:39 GMT -5
It looks good. Just to make sure I am reading it right though - this is all using the first calculator
Cell C7 is the current Bid Points
Cell C11 is what the minimum Bid Points must equal out to on the next bid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 9:09:45 GMT -5
15% of 3.1 is 0.465, so the point total for a legal bid would need to be at least 3.565 15% of 1.1 is 0.165, so the bid points for a legal bid would be 1.265 3.565 divided by 1.265 is 2.82 (I rounded up), so a bid of of either 3 or 4 years at 2.82 mill or more per year are the only legal bids right? Not sure how this helps free agency. Seems to only complicate things unnecessarily lol. So were these calculations right? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 9:14:36 GMT -5
Hold on let me do that again because the 3.1 can't happen. It has to be 3.3
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 9:22:46 GMT -5
15% of 3.3 is 0.495, so the point total for a legal bid would need to be at least 3.795
15% of 1.1 is 0.165, so the bid points for a legal bid would be 1.265
3.795 divided by 1.265 is 3 (I rounded up), so a bid of of 1, 2, or 3 years at 3 mill or more per year are the only legal bids right?
Or is it just 1.265 x 3 = 3.795, so a bid of 1, 2, or 3 years at 3.795 mill or more per year are the only legal bids?
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Post by Eric (Guidopolis) on Mar 14, 2016 9:44:59 GMT -5
Well, Unless you bid 1.1 million you could never get to 1.1 since for 1 and 2 year deals there is no amount that you times it by.
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With a bid point of 3.3, you just have to get your legal bid over 3.795. So if you did 3 mil at 4 years it would only b 3.6 bid points. If you did 3 mil at 5 years it would be 3.9 and a legal bid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 9:56:30 GMT -5
the 1.1 is the original bid points. not the total. "3 years: 10% (multiply AAV by 1.1)"
I'll be honest, this is a pain in the ass. I understand not wanting the 1 incremental bids but this seems a little excessive.
I still have absolutely no idea how this works, and the calculator does not help explain anything
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 9:58:57 GMT -5
With 1 and 2 year deals we are allowed to do the 1 increment since there are no bid points?
Also, what happens if someone bids 3 years and you want to bid 1 or 2 years?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 10:03:10 GMT -5
Maybe this will help.
My bid
3 years, 15 million.
5 million per year
BP 5.5 (5 million times 1.1)
15 percent of 5.5 is .825. 5.5 plus .825 equals 6.325. So the next offer needs to total BP of at least 6.325.
A competing bid is
3 years, 18 million
6 million per year
BP 6.6
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